Whatsa behind me is Not Important!
A great line proclaimed by ‘Franco’ (played by Raul Julia) from one of my favorite campy car movies or all time ‘Gumball Rally’. Totally worth watching if you are a car guy/gal since the cars are real and some of the footage is just great. 427 AC Cobra, Jag E Type, Ferrari’s, Porsche’s and more. You can watch it online from many streaming services like Amazon and YouTube (for just $2.99 USD), etc.
Anyways, back to today’s post on removing the rear view mirror. Ripping it off like Franco probably isn’t the advisable way to tackle this in an Aston Martin DB9 and I wanted to share how I did it. There could be any number of reasons to remove it, but for me it was that I wanted to loosen the Alcantra covered ‘Front Heading’ trim piece that spans the width of the front edge of the headliner so that I could remove the entire headliner to be re-upholstered after it started to sag. You can check out that whole process in my other article here.
[Updated Feb 15, 2017] Do you need a Replacement Rear View mirror? Check out the bottom of this article for a major money saver….
- T25 Torx Socket
- Ratchet and Extension
- Speed Driver Handle (optional)
- Large soft bath towel (optional)
Since your hands will be around your precious Alcantra covered interior, you’ll want to be sure that they are clean.
The process is actually very simple and should take less than 5 minutes. The mirror is held in place with a single bolt.
The Official Aston Martin Workshop Manual section 1.05 on removing the roof trim covers it succinctly in Step 2 “Remove the interior mirror (screw x1)”. For a change, that’s about all the info you need. Here’s my slightly more verbose method.
- You might want to consider laying out a large bath towel over the dash and center console that is under the mirror. If you accidentally drop a tool, the mirror, or the bolt you don’t want to scratch any of the nice [expensive] things below.
- Look up behind the mirror and you will see a single bolt used to hold the mirror in place
- Loosen the bolt using the T25 Torx socket. You may need to use a small ratchet and extension to break it loose. I then switched to the speed driver handle to make it easier.
- Be careful to support the mirror with one hand while you finish removing the bolt, you don’t want to drop the thing and break the glass.
You can see from this photo that it will allow the trim to sag a little more to allow you to pull the headliner form out from between it and the roof. Its also helpful just to have the mirror out of the way while removing the headliner so you aren’t banging into it.
Truly one of the few times the reinstallation is just as easy as the removal.
Notice that there are two alignment posts on the mirror that need to insert into mating holes to the left and right of the screw hole.
- Position the mirror up into place being sure that the alignment posts insert into their matching holes.
- Insert the mounting bolt and snug up. There is no published official torque specification, but I think 10 Nm would be appropriate, or ‘pretty snug’ if you are winging it. You don’t want it to rattle loose.
Here is a quick video showing the process.
Replacement Rear View Mirror
If your rear view mirror requires replacing, then here is a great money saving tip courtesy of reader Steve Sheffield. It turns out that the mirror for his 2005 DB9 is the same as used on the 2005 Peugeot 206. The mirror and its backing (the part with the ‘socket’) as the same, but not the Aston Martin base (the part with the ‘ball’ and that bolts to the car). Don’t acted surprised that this part was used by both Aston Martin and Peugeot (and who knows who else). Why design a bespoke mirror when you can pick up a catalog of mirrors from an OEM supplier company like Donnelly.
He keenly discovered the manufacturers mark on the back of his original (damaged) DB9 mirror “Donnelly Rd Ireland 44149 47816”. He couldn’t chase this down on Google, but he called the Donnelly company (bold move) and they explained its the exact same mirror as the Peugeot. Sure enough, here is a picture of the back of a Peugot mirror, and the back of my own DB9 mirror. Exactly the same!
If you try to source a new Aston Martin supplied mirror you need part number 4G43-17K695-AE, and you can find this online for about $147 USD. But, if you are crafty and check eBay, you can find a used Peugeot mirror for about $20 USD! I am sure you can probably contact a Peugeot dealer as well for a decently priced new one. Or perhaps a Peugeot dismantler for even cheaper.
Note: This is an early model DB9 mirror and does not include the buttons for a garage door opener or other fancier features that appeared on later models. European models may also have been fitted with another style of mirror, so check out these details for yourself (or contact your dealer to supply the part number needed for your specific car and see if it matches up with the one above). But, if you mirror looks like these ones and has the same markings on the back, you are probably good to go!
Steve goes on to supply this tip for separating your old mirror’s ball and socket joint.
- Heat the original Aston Martin mirror and base in a 150°F the oven (!) for 5 minutes. This makes separating them easier.
- Pull apart at the ball and socket
- Heat the new replacement mirror the same way for 5 minutes.
- Carefully press it onto the cooled ball.
Great discovery Steve, thanks!
I took a few other high resolution photos during the process you might want to see.